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Lardo - 8/2/2016 9:59:53 AM
   
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I just got back into the office from my annual, week long, trek to EAA Oshkosh. There wasn't much of anything to WOW me this year. But I still had a good time visiting with old (and some new) friends.

One thing that did catch my attention, however, was that EAA has "partnered" with Solidworks (via a local SWX reseller) to provide "free" CAD to it's members. (http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/eaa-membership/eaa-member-benefits/solidworks-resource-center) Now I can't say I'm all that happy about this development. I mean, to think that many of my aviation buddies might fall victim to the "history-tree" due to a lack of knowledge... and a slick marketing campaign. I think I'm getting depressed.

Maybe KeyCreator should think about having a booth at next year's AirVenture.

PS: I did manage to stop by the Solidworks booth... and voice my opinion. It was NOT appreciated. :)

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jay.d.burkett@gmail.com - 8/3/2016 2:05:41 PM
   
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Lardo, I have always been puzzled about the lack of effort to get aerospace related parties interested in KC. This would include homebuilders. The aircraft relate examples (like the ones currently posted) have always been lame at best. Do you work in aerospace, or, is it a hobby? Jay

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Lardo - 8/3/2016 3:43:07 PM
   
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It's just my hobby, Jay. I've been an EAA member since the early 90's, and passed my Sport Pilot check ride in June of 2011.

But as for the aerospace industry... there is some history there. It's my understanding that, while it's not their primary CAD system, Boeing has quite a few (hundreds?) seats of KeyCreator. And I know that Lancair used Cadkey to design some of their composite homebuilt aircraft back in the mid/late 90's. I don't know if they still use it, though.

I also know a few other companies, like Renaissance Aircraft, have used KeyCreator also.

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jay.d.burkett@gmail.com - 8/4/2016 12:12:48 PM
   
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Lardo,

I have used Cadkey, then KC, in aero work since 1994.  At one time Boeing had a huge installed base using Cadkey.  They migrated most of their 3D work to Catia.  I guess some groups still use Cadkey or KC.  I have never heard of any company I have dealt with (mod facilities, airlines (except the one I introduced it to) and component or system vendors) that use KC.  Most have never even heard of it (a totally overt hint to Kubotek marketeers!).  Likewise, co-ops and newly hired engineering graduates haven't heard of it either. 

Back to the fun stuff!  Did you drive or fly to Oshkosh? 

I took the family about 18 years ago.  It was great.  I really got the bug to build something.  I've still got it.  I just haven't been able to put together the time, the place and resources.

Another important question:  What do you fly?

Have a great day!

Jay

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Lardo - 8/4/2016 12:48:36 PM
   
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I live a couple hours south of Oshkosh, so I drive up every year. I've sat out along runway 09/27, on the Saturday before, to watch arrivals. And that's been enough to convince me I never want to fly in. (There's some real knuckleheads up there in the sky.)

I've gone every year since 1992. Made a lot of good friends over that time. (I share a camp site with some of them.) And these days it's more about getting together with them, than it is the "show".

The event has changed quite a bit in the last 25 years. It's not the same "EAA members convention" that it used to be. Nor is it as focused on the homebuilding hobby as it once was. In fact, I think it's getting harder and harder to find the "E" part of the EAA every year. It's still there. But they do a good job of tucking it away behind the Cirrus', Evolution Turbo-Props, and Honda Jets.

Oh well. I guess you can't stop progress. Then again, maybe I'm just getting old and nostalgic.

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Lardo - 8/4/2016 1:02:59 PM
   
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I had polio as a young toddler and don't have a lot of strength in my legs. And while I do own a set of portable hand controls, STC'd for the Cessna 150/152, 172 & 177 series aircraft, I decided in 2004 to go Light Sport. So I finished up my training, and earned my ticket, in an Ercoupe 415-C. Trouble is, about 3 months after I passed the check-ride, the FBO sold the plane. And I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement. So I'm no longer current.

The FBO at another nearby airport has a "BushCat LSA", on their line. I've considered checking it out but there's something about it that just doesn't appeal to me. For one thing the fuselage & wing are covered in sailcloth. Which doesn't excite me. And it uses the Rotax 912 for power. (I've flown a couple of Rotax powered planes. And just can't get used to a 5500RPM cruise.)

Then there is also the issue of rudder pedals. I have movement in my legs & feet. Just not a lot of strength or endurance. So that could present a problem, too.

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jay.d.burkett@gmail.com - 8/5/2016 11:52:45 AM
   
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Lardo, You just made it to my hero's list! It is a short list. You accomplished what I have been trying to do for 40 years without success. The fact that you are a steely-eyed CAD guy makes it all the better! Sorry to here about the Ercoupe. They are getting somewhat scarce. I'm suprized that you actually found one that could be rented. Hopefully you can find something soon!

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Lardo - 8/5/2016 12:34:41 PM
   
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Just a little persistence, that's all it took. (And nearly 15 years.) Light Sport makes it a bit more affordable, since you only need half the hours (20 minimum) that a private pilot's license takes. Plus you don't need the 3rd class medical.

Ercoupes don't come up for rental very often. This was quite rare. so I took advantage of it while I could. If you watch the ads on "Branstomers" they do come up for sale quite regularly. But I just can't afford it right now. A good one, that qualifies for Light Sport ('C' or 'C/D' model) generally run anywhere from low 20's to mid 30's. That, along with the cost of hangar rental and other fixed costs, puts it a bit out of my range. Unless, of course, I can find a sugar-momma. :)

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