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cosbex@gmail.com - 11/24/2020 11:24:07 PM
   
Deliver me from evil (Inventor)
Hi All,

Due the Covid 19 slump I have been forced to take on some part time work at a company and I have to use inventor.

Never have I been so frustrated with a CAD program. It is the clumsiest most illogical way of trying to do  design work. 

I spend my day redrawing parts, chasing faulty constraints and generally feeling uninspired.

Damn we so lucky to have KC.

Bring on the day when I can again earn my living with KC.

Alan Hesom
Altec Engineering Ltd
+64 21 0328260

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Dana - 11/30/2020 3:42:02 PM
   
RE:Deliver me from evil (Inventor)
I was forced to use Inventor some years back.  I finally revolted and the company VP said, "If another tool meets your needs better go ahead and use it."  Now the product design engineers all use inventor, two of our automation engineers also use it but the other two (one other guy and I) use KC.  They're making noise now about switching to Solidworks, while it's not as bad as Inventor I'm hoping I can hold out a few more years until I retire.


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Soli - 12/2/2020 12:36:25 PM
   
RE:Deliver me from evil (Inventor)
I used KeyCreator since 1992
(was Cadkey 4 without lay-out for drawings) till 2016 when I retired.
After I retired, the company changed the program to Solidworks.
From 2017 till now I'm working from home with KeyCreator.
I can't leave it, for me, is the best.
Solomon Steinberg,
Israel

DELL OPTIPLEX 7050
NVIDIA QUADRO P2000
KEYCREATOR 13.5
KEYCREATOR 2021 SP0



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bert.fourie.nz@gmail.com - 12/2/2020 4:30:37 PM
   
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Amen.

I seriously tried to use Inventor a couple of years ago. After two weeks I decided I would rather forgo the work than be frustrated to death.

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Dana - 12/4/2020 3:07:00 PM
   
RE:Deliver me from evil (Inventor)
I'm actually sitting in an online Inventor training class right now, focused on what's new in the past few releases.  As I said I don't use it more than once every few months but management scheduled all the engineers for it.  Lots of it is "Keycreator (or even Cadkey) has had that for years!", lots of "that's a lot easier in KC," some "kinda cool but useless," and the very occasional "that's neat, I wish KC could do that."

Though I will say, a lot depends on your design approach.  One other engineer I work with is very meticulous, he thinks everything out in advance.  He's also a very good chess player.  He used to use Cadkey, but he finds Inventor's constraint based modeling works better for him. 

OTOH, I tend to approach my work in a more freeform manner, making large sweeping changes as I go along, try one thing, if it doesn't work out try something else.  Constraint based modeling is horrible for that approach.  I'm not a very good chess player, either.

His machines tend to start out overly complex and get simplified over time.  My machines tend to start out simple and get more complex as needed.  Neither approach is necessarily better, it depends on how an individual engineer works.

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